[Translators-l] Tech/News translations title

Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Sun Feb 9 20:31:44 UTC 2014

I do not see the interest of duplicating the existing title already in the
Translate: namespace into a separately translatable template (which will
also recreate an entry for the translated item, so the item will be tripled
Why don't you just test and use the existing Page title item which is
directly in the Translations: namespace ?

Post the mass message with title (French version tested here):

display title/fr|{{Translations:Tech/News/2014/07/Page display
title/fr}}|Tech News: 2014-W07}}

Note that you could even create a template that uses TNT to get the
translated title:

    {{TNT|Translations:Tech/News/2014/07/Page display title}}

TNT by default uses the language detected in the content of the current
page (independantly of user's preference) ; to use the user
preferred/selectedlanguage (like Special:MyLanguage/) you can pass the
parameter "uselang={{uselang}}", e.g.

    {{TNT|Translations:Tech/News/2014/07/Page display

2014-02-08 12:36 GMT+01:00 Seb35 <seb35wikipedia at gmail.com>:

> A proposition:
> 1/ Translate on Meta the message "Tech News: {{{1}}}-{{{2}}}" (anywhere,
> for instance in Template:Tech header)
> 2/ Replicate by bot or by hand this message on each language wiki (WP, WS,
> etc.) into a template {{Tech News title}} containing the corresponding
> translation of "Tech News: {{{1}}}-{{{2}}}"
> 3/ Post the mass message with title "[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/
> News/2014/07|{{subst:#ifexist:Template:Tech News title|{{subst:Tech News
> title|2014|07}}|Tech News: 2014-07}}]]" (perfect tweet: 140 characters :)
> ~ Seb35
> Le Sun, 02 Feb 2014 12:11:09 +0100, Guillaume Paumier <
> gpaumier at wikimedia.org> a écrit :
>  On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:07 AM, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr>
>> wrote:
>>> Each translated page has a title which is accessible in the Translations:
>>> namespace, which uses the sub-id "Page display title" instead of the
>>> numeric
>>> id of a translation unit in the source page, just before hte language
>>> code.
>> Yes. the problem is not to access the translation, but to post it.
>> When we were using EdwardsBot, we discussed the possibility of using a
>> #switch for the title based on the wiki's {{CONTENTLANG}} (like we do
>> for the message's body), but the limitation on the length of MediaWiki
>> edit summaries prevented us from doing that.
>> We're now using MassMessage, but that limitation remains. I've tried
>> to include the title in the body (the downside being that there would
>> be a blank edit summary), but MassMessage doesn't allow to send
>> messages without a title.
>> Which brings me back to: If someone has ideas about how to do it, I'm
>> happy to try. :)
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