[Mediawiki-i18n] (no subject)

C. Scott Ananian cananian at wikimedia.org
Tue Jul 11 16:28:04 UTC 2017

[crpss-posted to mediawiki-i18n, languages@ and language committee mailing
lists. let me know if there's a better list to use for LanguageConverter

We're about ready to deploy initial support for LanguageConverter to
Parsoid and Visual Editor (see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T43716 and
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49411 for background).

A naming issue has come up.  In
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_systems/Syntax there are two
categories of rules: "bidirectional" and "unidirectional".

First, before I ask more: if you are a user of LanguageConverter on your
home wiki, did you know that there was more than one type of rule?  And if
so, do you call them "bidirectional"/"unidirectional" or something else?

These names appear in the HTML DOM emitted by Parsoid (see
There was concern that "bidir" as a field name would be confusing; in
particular that people would confuse this with RTL/LTR issues or the
Unicode "bidi" algorithm; neither of which are related at all.

As a user of LanguageConverter, do you find this naming confusing?  If
Visual Editor described these types of rules with a different name (say,
"symmetric"/"asymmetric") would that be a help or harm or neither?

The history of the "bidirectional" name in the PHP code appears to date
back to 2008 as far as I can tell (
) but they haven't been strongly exposed in the UI AFAIK.  Perhaps they are
present in the UI for the noteTA gadget (
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-noteTA.js )?

At any rate, I'm be interested in any thoughts or comments from folks who
use LanguageConverter regularly.

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