[Mediawiki-i18n] Fwd: How to edit translated pages

Seb35 seb35wikipedia at gmail.com
Tue May 13 15:18:10 UTC 2014

10.05.2014 11:53:54 (CEST), Jeph Alapat kirjoitti:
> We've decided to keep it really simple. We'll pick the interface language
> from the user's language setting & disable the endorsements on translated
> pages. We are assuming the primary grant language as english, till such
> time that the mediawiki bug is fixed or we decide to tag the page with a
> language marker inside the wikitext ourselves (It'll be local to our  
> gadget
> though).

Ok, it’s easier for now. Anyway could you use a subpage "/Endorsements" to  
avoid changing the main page? Else there will be always a message on the  
top "mark this page for the translation" and the endorsements on the  
translated pages will hardly stay synchronised with the main page. Such a  
subpage can be transcluded on main page and translations with  
"{{:Grants:IEG/Heather's test/Endorsements}}".

~ Seb35

> Jeph
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Seb35 <seb35wikipedia at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 03.05.2014 12:38:00 (CEST), Jeph Alapat kirjoitti:
>>  We want users to be able to create grants in the own language too. We  
>> were
>>> assuming we could edit the translated pages using the API but that does
>>> not
>>> seem the case. It isn't possible to manually edit the translated page
>>> either.
>> No, the Translate extension is thought to keep alignment between
>> languages, hence it is forbidden to change translated pages. Since your
>> script cannot add endorsement on translated pages, I suggest adding the
>> endorsements on a common page (e.g. "IEG name/Endorsements") and it will
>> also avoid changing a translatable page (translation admins will not  
>> like
>> continuously marking pages to be translated and I’m not sure it is  
>> needed
>> to translate the endorsements). On a common page, perhaps the  
>> multilingual
>> aspects can even be shown by adding endorsements:
>> * {{#language:fr}}: {{lang|fr|Fantastique IEG !}} ~~~~
>> Note: for the page language, there is mw.config.get('
>> wgPageContentLanguage')
>>  We are actually not looking for translation per se, we want users to be
>>> able to create pages in different languages in the Grants namespace.
>>> Eg: The user should be able to create
>>> IEG's<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG>in his/her language.
>>> There will be a template which will need translations
>>> (The skeleton for a grant), but from then on we wont be needing the
>>> ability
>>> to translate. The user should be able to go ahead & add content in his
>>> language.
>>> What would be the best way to achieve this in meta? Looking forward to
>>> your
>>> comments.
>> Apart from the bug pointed by Nemo is quickly resolved (I have some
>> doubts), perhaps you can add the new submissions on a temporary page  
>> (e.g.
>> "IEG name/Original proposal") and ask translators to translate from
>> language-to-English without the Translate extension.
>> If you don’t know the InputBox extension, you can be interested in it  
>> (or
>> its functionalities), particularly the preload and editintro parameters  
>> if
>> you want to preload a skeleton page to be filled, possibly even with
>> templates and/or in a specific language.
>> ~ Seb35

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