[Mediawiki-i18n] where should the MediaWiki Installer be in translatewiki.net?

Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) smazeland at wikimedia.org
Wed Nov 27 08:02:22 UTC 2013

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
<nemowiki at gmail.com>wrote:

> From the end:
> Amir E. Aharoni, 26/11/2013 10:01:
>  [The reason I say that the current situation "probably makes the
>> Installer get less attention than it deserves" is that I am not aware of
>> any easy way to compare translation statistics between different message
>> groups. Can anybody think of anything other than going to
>> Special:MessageGroupStats and manually comparing the numbers?]
> If you think we should keep an eye on it, it should be added to
> https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Group_statistics
> > Hallo,
> >
> > The MediaWiki Installer is in a somewhat unique position with regards to
> > localization: Its code and messages are a part of the core repository,
> > but it has a separate i18n file. The messages do not appear in the core
> > group in TWN, and it is listed as an extension.
> >
> > It is not a part of the in the "Extensions used by Wikimedia"
> > meta-group. That is probably correct technically, because these strings
> > are unlikely to be seen by end users of Wikimedia projects (the only
> > scenario I can think of is installing MediaWiki on labs instances).
> > However, this probably makes the Installer get less attention than it
> > deserves and this hurts other users of MediaWiki (see below about
> > "probably").
> >
> > I thought about adding it to core, but it has around 300 messages, which
> > is a bit heavy. Then I thought to list it as a separate group so that it
> > would appear in the TUX groups selector when people would search for
> > "mediawiki". Any other thoughts?
> The "extensions used by Wikimedia" group already has some super-huge
> extensions which almost no wiki uses, e.g. EducationProgram. I don't see
> any reason not to add it there, where it won't affect the stats required by
> Wikimedia LangCom's language policy or anything else.

The installer is not used by Wikimedia, so it won't be part of the group
'Extensions used by Wikimedia'. Because I agree that the installer could
need a little more exposure, I've made two changes:

* Installer is now at the MediaWiki main level of Special:LanguageStats[1,2]
* Installer is now reported in the overview stats that are generated on
daily basis[3,4]

[2] https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:LanguageStats
[3] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/97889/1/bin/stats-mediawiki
[4] https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Group_statistics


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