[Translators-l] Training modules: Can you help with translation?
jsutherland at wikimedia.org
Sat Jun 10 00:08:38 UTC 2017
Really sorry for the delayed reply; I thought Kalli might have answered all
of your questions but I missed that there were three!
To answer your third question, links with little dollar signs ( $link1 etc
) are dealt with like this:
"This is a sentence with a [$link1 link in it]."
The "$link1" will remain the same in all languages, and is actually a URL
you do not need to translate. It is represented by this way so that people
do not accidentally change it for some languages.
I hope this makes sense, and thank you immensely for your help in
On 29 May 2017 at 01:04, Kalliope Tsouroupidou <ktsouroupidou at wikimedia.org>
> Hello Michael,
> Thank you for your questions.
> Because the two training modules we have prepared are quite lengthy,
> especially the module on online harassment, we have purposefully divided
> them in sections, not only to help with the translation process (it looks a
> lot less daunting a task when it's not one huge wall of text, right?) but
> also with the flow of the modules themselves. So, the text can be viewed in
> chunks as big as each section, as listed under the translation page on
> meta <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_modules/Translation>, as
> they have been marked for translation using the same sectioning.
> Once on the translation page for the section (for example, on Fundamentals
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&filter=&group=agg-Training_modules%3A_Dealing_with_online_harassment_%28Fundamentals%29&task=custom&language=el&action=translate> ),
> you can set it so you can see both the original as well as the translated
> text, side by side
> You can do this by setting:
> 1. the translation language to Dutch (from the top right drop-down menu)
> 2. the view as "All" (from the top left side horizontal menu)
> 3. the page setup as "page" view (from the bottom right horizontal menu).
> This should help you see the text as a whole, at least section by section.
> As you are the original translator of the English text into Dutch you can
> be marking the page, depending on the stage you're at. So, for the
> Fundamentals section, linked above, I see you have translated all text so
> far, so you can set this as either "Needs updating" or "Proofreading" (from
> the top left corner drop-down menu).
> Joe may correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we have a list of predefined
> translations used throughout Wikimedia for specific terminology that is
> used in the modules. You will, however, find a lot of the terms being
> repeated in an earlier survey on the topic of harassment
> conducted by Foundation back in late 2015. The survey was translated
> into Dutch as well, among other languages. That process wasn't done through
> translation mark-up, but I'll be happy to send you the Dutch translation
> document alongside the original english text, which you can use it as a
> guide on some of the terminology you may come across on the modules. Let me
> know if you'd like that.
> I hope the above is helpful.
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:55 AM, <michael at maaiko.nl> wrote:
>> Dear Joe,
>> Over the past few weeks I have slowly translated the first module into Dutch (which I enjoyed doing!).
>> However, I am new to this game and I have a few questions and I hope you are the right person to ask them.
>> - Is there a way for me to have a look at the complete text, to ensure that it has become a consistent document?
>> - Are there specific Wiki terms with a predefined translation that is used throughout Wikimedia (for example, I am thinking of a translation of words such as 'editor' and 'steward')? I also did not translate the 'Support & Safety Team' as I thought this to be a generic term.
>> - I am not sure how the links in the document really work. Which text should be included/translated? For example, if the original is: [$link2 Range blocks], do I need to include and/or translate the text?
>> Kind regards,
>> Michael Oosterhout
>> Joe Sutherland schreef op 2017-04-29 02:49:
>> > Hello everyone,
>> > Some of you may already be aware that the fight against harassment is
>> > one of the Wikimedia Foundation’s priorities. As part of our
>> > coordinated efforts on this front, the Foundation's Support & Safety
>> > team  has been working collaboratively with the Wikimedia
>> > communities for several months now on better training materials for
>> > contributors who work on harassment issues.
>> > To this end, the team has created training modules . These
>> > contain training materials aimed at helping contributors deal with
>> > online harassment situations, and with problems at real life events.
>> > In order for those training modules to be easily accessible to as many
>> > editors as possible in the entire Wikimedia movement we need your help
>> > in translating them into as many languages as we can.
>> > We have finished the final English content of the first two modules
>> > and it is now ready for translation. We are targeting a minimum of ten
>> > languages for these modules, including the English original. So, we
>> > need some translation help from English into at least nine languages.
>> > For a faster and more collaborative effort on this, all the of
>> > translation work will be taking place on Meta . If you have
>> > enough time for this, we'd love help.
>> > There is a lot of work to do here (something like 600 messages) - so
>> > you absolutely don’t have to carry all the burden of the translation
>> > alone. Any little bit you can do will help immensely. The content is
>> > split into a bunch of Aggregate Groups so you can focus on whichever
>> > interests you. Feel free to invite your fellow Wikimedians to this
>> > effort!
>> > We look forward to seeing you on those meta pages and helping keep our
>> > communities safe.
>> > Thank you all in advance :) Please email me if you have any concerns
>> > or issues.
>> > best,
>> > Joe
>> >  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Support_and_Safety 
>> >  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_modules 
>> >  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_modules/Translation 
>> > --
>> > JOE SUTHERLAND
>> > Community Advocate
>> > Wikimedia Foundation
>> > joesutherland.rocks
>> > Links:
>> > ------
>> >  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Support_and_Safety
>> >  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_modules
>> >  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_modules/Translation
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