[Translators-l] Ready for early translation: Tech News #08 (2017)

Johan Jönsson jjonsson at wikimedia.org
Fri Feb 17 20:34:18 UTC 2017

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Niklas Laxström <niklas.laxstrom at gmail.com>

> 2017-02-16 23:38 GMT+02:00 Stryn <strynwiki at gmail.com>:
> > just a few questions regarding translation memory:
> Hi,
> in short, it is a known issue (T101236).
> To alleviate performance issues, the algorithm of the translation
> memory was changed as follows: load N items in the source language
> that match most closely to the string in translation. Then load the
> translations for them (if any exist). If we do not get more results,
> repeat the same for M more items. Currently N = 100 and M = 500.
> It so seems that if there are many untranslated strings, we often fail
> to choose the ones which would have translations. In addition I think
> we have some sort of matching and ranking problem as well, since top
> 600 matches should definitely contain the previous translations.
> It is easy to rule out an updating problem, since I can find those
> translations with translation search [1]. And this search [2] shows
> that there are many untranslated ones.
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:
> SearchTranslations&filter=translated&language=fi&query=
> You+can+join+the+next+meeting+with+the+VisualEditor+team
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:
> SearchTranslations&filter=untranslated&language=fi&
> query=You+can+join+the+next+meeting+with+the+VisualEditor+team
> You are probably interested when this will be fixed. I don't know the
> answer for that. It is a non-trivial amount of a work, and it requires
> some expertise in algorithms suitable for this purpose. Comments (in
> here and Phabricator) which explain how this issue affects you and
> wastes you time and how extensive the issue is are welcome and helpful
> to show that it is an important issue.

OK, I have commented on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101236 trying to
explain how this issue affects us. Any individual translators who feel
affected by this, feel free to add something to the ticket (or here, if you
don't want to use Phabricator).

//Johan Jönsson
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